R2: Anakin's a lot faster with all those acrobatic flips and tricks while Darth is more slow and methodical with his strikes. Based on his duel against Kanan and Ezra, vs Anakin's duel against Barriss, Vader may still be slightly better as a lightsaber duelist, but as I said. But it's unclear if Obi-Wan really was that much weaker here because he defeated Maul in literally seconds. A bit harder to judge. He was more experienced and not held back by his trauma as much as real Legends Vader. His shoulder armor is lightsaber proof, and he can shrug off lightsaber strikes to the torso. ), … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. But in all seriousness: Anakin from RotS. Vader imagined the screams of the pilots as they watched the forest race toward them. Dueling wise Anakin might have a bit more of an edge due to being faster, but in spite of what a lot of people say Vader isn't all that slow. He was able to defeat Commander Karbin (a discount General Grievous) in combat. Keep in mind that the being we know as Darth Vader is not simply Anakin Skywalker in a suit. Anakin isn't going to beat him in the dueling department. Unconsciously lets out a wave of rage that shatters glass and crumples durasteel, Veers three squads' torpedoes away from his ship. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. He had two AT-ST walkers dropped on him and he walked out completely unscathed. Darth Vader Even in Suit Vader’s prime and Yoda’s prime, Vader will always rein superior in both the force and lightsaber combat. This causes him to lose against Dooku and the theoretically less powerful Obi-Wan. Legends: Anakin, hands down. Easily Vader. That was arguably more about his state of mind at the time and being reluctant to fight back, but he still definitely lost to someone who was technically still a padawan. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. Vader's durability is also not to be understated. Both are canon. Legends Vader was a complete wreck. Kylo Ren is a fictional character and a major antagonist in the Star Wars franchise. A recent post on Reddit by user u/acautelado pointed out that butterflies appeared during a meditation panel in comic Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith #8, similar to Grogu meditating on Tython. To summarise, I believe Darth Vader, and by extension Anakin Skywalker, to be incredibly weak relative to other Jedi/Sith in the Star Wars Universe. Lucas stated, “Ben … The Dark Side draws on hatred after-all and Vader would quite literally be fighting the person he hates most in the entire Galaxy. Age doesn't matter, just ask an 80-something year old Count Dooku and a 900 year old Yoda. I would also argue that being unable to defeat an out of practice Obi-Wan, who had fought one duel in the last twenty years, was an anti-feat because Obi-Wan let him win. It's just advances in film. Vader is fully immersed in the Dark Side, making him even stronger. R2: Diagon Alley. This question has been asked a lot and I answer roughly the same thing every time: Anakin: theoretically more powerful, but unexperienced, Vader: disadvantaged in some ways by his injuries, but much more experienced. With Savage it's closer I doubt vader is going to be able to push both of them on the defence simultaneously so he's going to be forced to go on the defence himself. While the battle between the father and son was a pivotal and important moment in the overall Star Wars storyline, a Reddit user posits that it was quite … I certainly hope so, Vader deserves a good showing on the big screen, not just comics and TV. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/canon-darth-vader-respect-thread-1715394/, https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3ydx9z/respect_darth_vader_the_dark_lord_of_the_sith/. Would losing to Luke be a big anti-feat? Press J to jump to the feed. Fully immersed in the dark side. R1: Vader's much more well-trained in the Force than Anakin for obvious reasons. While dueling skill is a bit harder to judge, Vader has not shown any anti-feats to suggest he is substantially weaker than Anakin. Which age or time do you want Anakin? However - experience gives them a huge advantage. Vader. He almost turned Luke with "I'm your dad", think about what reaction he'd get from Anakin with "I'm you from the future!". (particularly boxers with hand fractures or TBI). Believed to have been conceived by the midi-chlorians, Anakin Skywalker was born to the slave Shmi Skywalker. The major contrast of the … Hayden Christensen is playing Darth Vader in Obi-Wan Kenobi, marking his long-awaited return to the Star Wars galaxy. Darth Vader vs. Darth Vader have a lightsaber battle, as do Rey and Darth Vader in the Rebel Alliance’s Hoth base from “Empire Strikes Back.” Return to Mustafar, Anakin vs Obi-Wan — “Revenge of the Sith” Rey drops in on the Mustafar lightsaber battle between Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi. R1: Naboo. SPOILERS FOR SEASON 2 FINAL!!! Anakin's physical body was used as the foundation, true, but Darth Vader is much more: Both of Anakin's legs were removed and replaced with robotic prostheses. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The therapist getting paid to moderate the battle of psychological trauma. Hopefully Rogue One gives us a glimpse at 21st century Vader and puts those arguments to rest. This is absolutely no contest. Vader still kicked ass at lightsaber combat. Introduced in the 2015 film Star Wars: The Force Awakens, he is portrayed by Adam Driver.Kylo Ren is the chosen name of Ben Solo, the only child of original Star Wars trilogy characters Han Solo and Princess Leia Organa.Though trained by his uncle Luke Skywalker as a Jedi, he was seduced to … If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Hayden Christensen returns as Darth Vader, joining Ewan McGregor in OBI-WAN KENOBI. He stood up straight, towering over the crew near him. Anakin, unless Vader can manipulate him to turn to the dark side, which he has a strong chance of doing. However he would need to use all his resolve and also probably the fight would need to take place at a location that is some kind of Force nexus to allow him to do that. Who will come out the winner of this duel?? The reason is that Anakin is impulsive, reckless, and prone to rushing into fights he isn't prepared for. Anakin here is in his prime moment, right before (SPOILER) the battle with Obi-wan. Press J to jump to the feed. Every single lightsaber duel of his has been either lost or fixed in his favour (bar his encounter with Luke in ESB, who was effectively an amateur). The vision also included the Jedi Zayne Carrick, Skywalker's son Luke, and his descendant Cade; all four of them would be affected by the Sith artifact known as the Muur Talisman. Thank you guys for the help figuring this out really glad for all the comment But I gotta give it to Vader some of you made some great comments and how Vader draws for the dark side and how he will face the one person he hates more then Palpatine. Weapons and powers remain pretty much the same. Crew scrambled out of the way at his approach, his dark form knifing through them. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Anakin has more raw power to draw from, but Vader is much more refined and smart with his use of it, not to mention feat wise he's more impressive (At the time of writing this.) A cloud of black smoke rose into the darkening sky. Voldemort is the same in all 3 rounds. Oh Wow. The ship, its damaged engines unable to compensate enough against the downward push of Vader’s power, went nose-down and streaked into the ground. Posted in Disney, Movies, Star Wars | Tagged Anakin Skywalker, darth vader, star wars, star wars: the last jedi, yoda Post navigation. Realistically, Anakin isn't going to win this. Source: I beat Vader as Anakin in the RoTS game. Vader was forty meters from her. Vader plays a central role in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (2008), where he is the playable character for the first level of the game. In all seriousness this isn't even a fair battle, to be honest this not even a battle it's just murder. Vader still kicked ass at lightsaber combat. He grunted with the effort, his respirator increasing his rate of breathing to account for the exertion. Anakin puts up a reasonable fight, as he's no slouch as a duelist himself, but Vader still outmatches him. R3: Death Star. If he can do that, he can defeat pretty much anyone, maybe even Sidious. He's nearly as fast, just as agile, and just as strong if not stronger physically as well due to his mechanical limbs. There also isn't much in the current canon that suggests the cybernetic limbs inhibit his ability to fight (other than limiting some of his Force potential and removing his ability to cast Force Lightning). Vader stomps, whether this is Legends or Canon. Didn't he lose half of his force power too when he lost his limbs? He exploded into motion, moving toward her at preternatural speed, his strides devouring the deck space between them. It's Time for Hayden Christensen's Star Wars Redemption. Vader just has better feats overall that Anakin can't contend with. He was 20 years younger and had most of his real limbs. The two then moved to the desert world of Tatooine. Anakin has more raw power to draw from, but Vader is much more refined and smart with his use of it, not to mention feat wise he's more impressive (At the time of writing this.). Tears a damaged freighter out of the air, and sends it crashing it into the ground (page 182)Lords of the Sith. Vader obviously has more power and durability, but I think Anakin’s agility and versatility - not forgetting having the Force on his side - would eventually stop Vader. So Anakin's biggest enemy in this fight is himself in more ways than one. Where that experience fails is when the fighter has to retire due to too many injuries and wear-and-tear. Vader might be nerfed a bit in some ways, but he is also much more strategic and level-headed, and that gives him a big advantage. Simply a stronger duelist, with more ability to move and attack than Vader had (if his battle with Obi-Wan is any indication). Terrible pain. Vader extended a gloved hand and loosed a blast of power that blew apart two of the lyleks rushing toward him, showering those behind with gore and chunks of carapace. Darth Vader, because he has a lot more experience. Even if we assume that Anakin is stronger than the Darth Vader version of himself (which I don't agree, Anakin has a greater POTENTIAL for power because he's Space Jesus and doesn't have so many robot parts, but Vader has 20 years of experience with the dark side and is physically stronger and more durable), Starkiller is the winner because of his dark side skills tempered by … Regardless, Vader would still beat Anakin. I’m going to guess that the Skywalker we’re talking about is the one just before entering Palpatine’s office and assist him in killing Mace Windu. It's very simple video.. All those intense feelings, emotions.. I would lean Vader since in general experience beats raw power. Dueling wise Anakin might have a bit more of an edge due to being faster, but in spite of what a lot of people say Vader isn't all that slow. Similarly, at an unknown period of time, Skywalker was also foretold by the Heinsnake Cult to overthrow both the Jedi Order and the Em… He stops an AT-AT from stepping on him, then tears said AT-AT apart with the Force. In new canon reference book, SW Everything You Need to Know, Vader is ranked above Sidious. Star Wars Rebels: Full duel between Ahsoka and Darth Vader and its conclusion. Star Wars: Return of the Jedi famously ends with Luke Skywalker's duel against his father, Darth Vader, which results in the Sith Lord's redemption and the destruction of the Death Star, thanks to the Rebels on Endor. In practice that means Vader would probably win. I think that as long as Anakin keeps his cool, he'd win. You are indeed where you belong. In a recently resurfaced story about Lucas’ original plans for Anakin Skywalker from the 1981 Revenge of the Jedi Story Conference sees Lucas explain why Obi-Wan Kenobi doesn’t raise Luke Skywalker himself, but instead stays hidden in the deserts of Tatooine. Vader 9/10 maybe 10/10. This is not accounting for the fact that Vader would have a colossal dark side amp fighting Anakin. Vader's armor is quite thick and likely adds an inch or more to both his height AND overall girth (torso, legs, arms, etc. ROTS Anakin is ranked with Sidious and Yoda (Nic Gillard). He was able to defeat Commander Karbin (a discount General Grievous) in combat. 30+ years using the force by that point. If you haven't read the new canon Marvel Darth Vader and Star Wars comics yet, you should. It shows Vader as an unstoppable force, like he was always mean to. If you want more look at 3 more of the same match-up: Anakin. Except this one has the power to hurt him a test of the dark VS the light side of him. Not to mention that he'd know what to expect, whereas Anakin would not. Round 3) Vader wins comfortably huge physical edge. Twitch Reveals Prime Gaming Free Titles For December 2020. Darth Vader is much stronger in the Force than what he was as Anakin. Legends: Vader is a far more experienced, skilled and complete duelist than Anakin, and his prowess with the Force is equal to Anakin's best feats. "Darth Vader remembers Anakin's life and descent to darkness with flashbacks Made/Edited by Rob Long (Smasher)Sub... "Young Skywalker is in pain. Thousands of years before his birth, Anakin Skywalker appeared as Darth Vader, the Sith Lord he would eventually become, to the Jedi Master Q'Anilia in a Force vision. There are numerous examples in boxing, wrestling, and re-enactment swordfighting. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Darth Vader builds a simulation of his younger self to see if he is more powerful now or if his younger self would have been more powerful then he is. (And a Skywalker, but still.). level 1. Skywalker and his mother were originally owned by Gardulla the Hutt until she lost them to the Toydarian Watto in a podracing bet when Skywalker was around age 3. A second boom sounded behind him, his Master having driven the second ship into the ground the same way. If we’re talking about that Skywalker, then I’d say it leans to him due to being more versatile and fast. As such, he wins with a Force choke. Vader enmeshed himself in the Force, in his seething, ever-present wrath, and used it to take hold of the freighter and drive the entire ship toward the ground. Canon: Vader's feats with the Force are straight up better than Anakin. Anakin 7/10. Shortly following his fall to the dark side of the Force, Anakin, now Darth Vader, journeys to the Jedi Temple on Coruscant to destroy whatever remains of the ancient order. big edge with a lightsaber, the force and they are equally likely to use it in a fight. We haven't even started on his telekinesis feats! It's actually a fact; older fighters have some disadvantages in flexibility, speed, and raw power. This is crucial as it dictates how bad you want the stomp. Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker have appeared in a number of Star Wars since the earliest days of the franchise, though rarely as a playable character. He kicked more ass as Vader than he ever did as Anakin. He force chokes someone in orbit while he is on the ground. Vader is more powerful than he ever was in RoTJ. None. However, Anakin can win under very specific circumstances, namely that he doesn't act like an idiot and get overconfident, and taps into his full Light Side potential. Affectionately nicknamed \"Ani,\" he worked in his master's shop, located in Mos Espa.Even at a young age, Skywalker exhibited exceptional pilotin… Vader and PSV. He also appears in the sequel Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II as the final boss. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The loss of his limbs and the increase in age didn't really matter. Pretty much every argument pro-Anakin is based on the OT being made 20+ years before the Prequels, and so Anakin 'looks' better based on the eye test. Anakin here is Darth Vader (the episode 4 one) Vader sprints at supernatural speeds, crossing forty meters in a matter of moments (page 131)Lords of the Sith. He also isn't nearly as impulsive as Anakin was. Disintegrates Lyleks (page whatever, it doesn't matter)Lords of the Sith. Who do you guys think would win in a battle between Anakin from RotS, or Vader from ANH? The last we see of Anakin was in Revenge of the Sith when Obi-Wan got the "high ground" and literally cut down Anakin who was found and saved by the Emperor only to get transformed into Darth Vader. The ship disappeared behind the tree line and exploded into a fireball that reached above the forest’s canopy and caused the ground to vibrate. With preternatural speed the Emperor drew, ignited, and slashed at the girl with his lightsaber, but Vader had sensed his Master’s intent and moved with greater speed, igniting his own blade and intercepting his Master’s blow before it could land. Anakin here is a padowan yet. Intercepts the Emperor’s blade mid-swing (page 256)Lords of the Sith. He was looking right at her, his lightsaber held at his side, and she could feel the weight of his regard pressing against her like a punch. Darth Malgus, Darth Revan and Darth Nihilus could take Sidious in a toe to toe battle. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! shrug off lightsaber strikes to the torso, He had two AT-ST walkers dropped on him and he walked out completely unscathed, an explosion that leveled one of the largest weapons manufacturing plants in the galaxy. Here's a full image breakdown: Comic vs. ... but many fans assumed that the butterflies were the light side of the Force reaching out to Anakin in Issue #8. Vader just has better feats overall that Anakin can't contend with. Anakin's dueling ability was amped quite a bit in his second cinematic duel with Dooku after he tapped into the Dark Side. Either way, Vader still wins. He survived an explosion that leveled one of the largest weapons manufacturing plants in the galaxy. Despite what the movies may suggest, he's no slouch when it comes to speed. Anakin's dueling ability was amped quite a bit in his second cinematic duel with Dooku after he tapped into the Dark Side. Disney: probably Vader. 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